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Bazdmeg, hogy ezeket semmiért sem küldik ki.  Berra ma egy kicsit megint a régi, nagyobb baj, hogy Tangs is kiesett.
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Én bírom Weekest, mint NHL analystet, szerintem ő látja legreálisabban a dolgokat. Rólunk most ezt mondja:
I believe in this group and love what they did last year and what they're capable of, and I believe in coach Patrick Roy and his staff. They have so much character in the room. A lot of the young guys are good people, but I think one of the things you have to know is that you have to make adjustments constantly in order to consistently win in this League, especially when you're still trying to develop a team identity. I know last year they played to a certain identity, but it's almost as if the League has figured you out and now you have to make adjustments.
The young players on the team have been supported with the additions of first-rate people like Jarome Iginla, Alex Tanguay and Daniel Briere. So now those young guys have to make the decision to play smarter with the puck. They have to start defending. When I talk to people in the League, I always hear how guys want to play for coaches who allow them to make a play, and I don't blame them because you want to be able to make a play if you're in the NHL. Patrick Roy has been great with those guys since Day One. But at some point if you keep putting your hand in the lion's mouth, he's going to bite you.
As nice and as flexible as Patrick has been, players need to respect the fact that he's Patrick Roy. Second, that he knows a thing or two about winning. And third, that as a group they're going to have to make some adjustments in how they play, even if it's temporary to get back on track. It's one thing if you're running up the scoreboard, scoring four or five goals a night, but you're not. They are not scoring and losing fast defensively, so it just makes it worse.
The Avalanche are an intelligent group. They think and read the game well. So it's not a question of aptitude, but it's a question of commitment. It's not can they figure it out or not, or can they read the game defensively or offensively, because they can. The NHL doesn't make exceptions for anybody, no matter who you are, and I've got a lot of confidence in that group in Colorado, but those guys have to get it going. We're at the 15-game mark now. If the Avalanche want to make some strides they're going to have to make adjustments. The bottom line is it's not working the way they're doing it now. It's time to press the reset button. It's frustrating to watch because they're way better than they're showing right now.
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A végén volt a legjobb, EJ-vel. 
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Mile High Dream Gala - csak a szokásos
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McGinn is questionable for Thursday's game against the Capitals due to a back injury, The Denver Post reports.
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Nem tudom emlékeztek-e, hogy sérült meg. Egy elrontott ütközés miatt, ami egyáltalán nem tűnt súlyosnak, nagynak. Hogy az istenbe lehet úgy megsérülni, hogy műteni kell és season ending?? 
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Válasz Sakic hozzászólására (#46366) |
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Ryan Wilson will miss whole season due shoulder surgery. #Avs
Ez az ember  Szerintem nálunk neki ennyi volt, kár érte...
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... és még egy idézet tőle - a 2011-es visszavonuláskor -, ami egyben üzenet is lehetne, a napjainkban öltözőben ülő némely, AVS játékosnak:
"Nem igazán érdekelt soha mit gondolnak arról, hogy jól játszom-e vagy sem. Csak azt kívántam, hogy úgy hagyják el a csarnokot egy-egy mérkőzés után, hogy elmondhassák, 'igen, ő ma is mindent beleadott'."
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Én is hozzátenném, a magam személyes kedvencét. Az év '99, a meccs, otthon a Florida ellen. Égünk öt-nullra. Aztán jön ő, a hat-trick-jével és megnyerjük a meccset, hét-ötre. És milyen gólok ... 
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Nincs mit hozzáfűzni
(Így tűnik el egy korszak, all-time kedvenceim közül Foppa és Hasek most lett HHOF-tag, Sakic korábban, már csak Jagr maradt  )
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Semyon Varlamov is day-to-day with a groin injury.
Felhívtuk Pickardot.
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Egy  pénzéhes svéd volt, mindenki tudja.
Egyébként meg a franchise valaha volt legtehetségesebb játékosa.
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Válasz Shad hozzászólására (#46360) |
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Most olvastam én is a DP-n a cikkeket.
Kedvencem játékosom volt, és marad is. Sose lesz még egy ilyen játékos. És a legbosszantóbb az, hogy mennyi minden maradt még benne a sérülései miatt...
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Válasz Sakic hozzászólására (#46359) |
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Forsberg este hivatalosan is halhatatlan lesz. 
"He was the most talented guy I ever played with, for just pure raw talent. But more than that, he was a winner and a total gamer, he just wanted to win. He didn't care who scored all the goals or who got all the credit. He just wanted to win, and that's why his teams won as much as they did. We were all very lucky to play with him." "He was such an unselfish player, he loved to setup teammates, he's passing ability was second to none. He created alot of empty nets for alot of players and im one of the big benefactors from him, I got alot of easy goals thanks to Peter. There was nobody in my era there that was as skilled as him and that could play that tough style of hockey and i know when see other friends, he's the one player they mentioned they hated to play against. I got to play with Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux and all these guys, but there's not one guy that i could compare Forsberg with, he could beat you up physically or he could beat somebody up and bang them around and then take the puck and make the nicest pass ever, no-one else had that. -- Joe Sakic
"Peter Forsberg is one of the best hockey players that ever played the game, and I actually don't think that anyone has been so good as Peter was during his peak, I've played against him alot, so I should know." -- Vjatjeslav Fetisov
At the HHOF induction, was asked the question on which player he thinks it's the best he ever played against. -- I would probably say that Forsberg is the best player I ever played against" -- Scott Stevens
"Some of the stuff he does is just ridiculous. Jaromir Jagr is big and strong like Forsberg, but Jagr doesn't fight back if you play him tough like Forsberg does. "I think he's the toughest player in the game to play against." -- Derian Hatcher
"For me, an agitator is somebody who controls the emotion of the game," "And Peter definitely controls the emotion of the game for them." "The only thing that stopped Forsberg is that he ran out of gas when they double- and tripleshifted him, and he wasn't able to use his speed, plus his strength," Hitchcock says. "I remember one time he kept the puck in our end for 40, maybe 50 seconds, and we couldn't get the thing away from him. His ability to knock Derian Hatcher on his butt while giving up 40 pounds shows how he can completely control and dominate a game. He's a player with skill and talent who occasionally goes maniacal. Boy, he gets a really strange look in his eyes. It's like the same steely glare that Mark Messier always gets, and you don't want to be anywhere near him." -- Ken Hitchcock
"Obviously one of the best players in the league the last 15 years, a guy who really controlled the play when he was on the ice, and there's only a handful of guy's in the league at any given era that really, actually controlled the play when the're where on the ice, just his combination of skill, strenght, determinition, and a bit of meanness or alot of meanness actually made him one of the best players to play." -- Steve Yzerman
"Peter is the best all-around player in the NHL, bar none. He's a competitor. He's the ultimate warrior. His hands are electric. He's one of the smartest players on the ice, and he knows where everybody is. He always makes the right play, and he even makes the plays you don't think he can make. He's so fast on his feet and so powerful. And he's mean. The guy is so talented, he's disgusting to watch." -- Jeremy Roenick
"If you could be anyone else in hockey, who would it be?" -- "That's easy. Peter Forsberg," (Claude) Lemieux says. "I could still be mean and nasty, but if I had all of the skills that he has, I might have won five or six Stanley Cups by now. "I can only dream of skating like Peter. Either that or buy some rocket-powered skates." "(After seeing) a Michael Jordan or a Wayne Gretzky, you think you've seen it all," Lemieux says, "and then Peter shows you something entirely new. "It's the way he creates space, uses space. It's the way he sees the ice. It's the way he picks up speed even after he picks up the puck. And it's the meanness, the nastiness." -- Claude Lemieux
"He's a coach's dream. The more crucial the time in a game or a series, the tougher he gets. I think sometimes he's able to flip on a switch in his mind and be at a different level than everyone else. " -- Ray Bourque
"Peter's ability to change the game was bar none, he could bring so many elements to a game to change it... My best advice when you're playing against Peter is to go change and let someone else play against him." -- Adam Deadmarsh
"The toughest NHL player you ever played against?" -- Quite easily Peter Forsberg. We have had our battles (he said laughing)... Forsberg was a one-man wrecking crew. He was so skilled and yet so powerful.. the man could simply do it all and at the same time he was hard as nails. He was extremely tough to play against. He was down right nasty." -- Chris Chelios
Some tidbits:
1997 --- Mike Milbury distilled the dilemma to these words: "Who are you going to check?"
Eight hours before a recent game between the New York Islanders and the Colorado Avalanche, Milbury, the Islanders' coach and general manager, pinpointed the predicament in which Colorado's opponents find themselves: If, like most teams, you have one checking line, whom do you try to shut down, Joe Sakic or Peter Forsberg? Who is better?
Milbury gives the edge to Forsberg, whom he calls "the best player in the league right now, no question."
1998 --- "He's so strong on his skates. He is the toughest European I've ever seen," -- Mike Keane.
1998: Oilers assistant coach Bob McCammon says that Forsberg has the meanness of Mark Messier, the dirtiness of Ken Linseman, the smarts of Wayne Gretzky and the strength of Bryan Trottier.
1999 --- When Gretzky retired in he was asked who was the best player in the game today (then). Wayne said that there were three or four superstars in the game, but when the reporter pressed him, Gretzky made only one reference: "Forsberg is something special."
2000 --- Michael Farber: Forsberg's brilliance comes from a unique amalgam of skills, styles and attitudes. If you borrowed a dollop of Jaromir Jagr's intimidating strength on the puck, a drop of Paul Kariya's speed, a dash of John LeClair's stevedore toughness, a pinch of Teemu Selanne's finesse, a healthy dose of Michael Peca's body-checking skills and a full measure of Steve Yzerman's commitment to playing all 200 feet of the ice, the product would be a rough approximation of Forsberg.
2004 --- Barry Melrose: "Anyone who knows hockey knows Forsberg is the best player in the world. I visited seven different training camps before this season to interview several players, and 90 percent of them told me without hesitation that Forsberg is the best hockey player in the world. His peers respect him as such and I don't think there is much doubt about it."
2006 --- Sports Illistrated Poll (Based on a survey of 346 NHL players.)
Who is the best player in the NHL?
Peter Forsberg, Flyers C 42%
Jaromir Jagr, Rangers RW 24%
Jarome Iginla, Flames RW 9%
Joe Thornton, Sharks C 5%
To get some perspective on how much heart and love of the game Forsberg had.
Colorado Avalanche players went to bed Wednesday filled with happy thoughts of a Game 7 win and the ongoing pursuit of the Stanley Cup, but they awakened to learn that teammate Peter Forsberg had faced a potentially life-threatening ordeal as they slept.
Forsberg had his spleen removed during an emergency 2-hour surgery at Rose Medical Center at 3:15 a.m. Thursday. Doctors performed the operation after Forsberg complained of crippling pain in the left side of his abdomen a couple hours after the Avs beat Los Angeles, 5-1.
Forsberg had suffered a ruptured or lacerated spleen and was suffering from internal bleeding. The doctors found 1.7 (57 ounces) liters of blood in his stomach(!). The Avs said they do not know what hit - or combination of hits - might have caused the injury.
It ends the season of Colorado's leading postseason scorer, but doctors and team officials are optimistic that Forsberg will play hockey again - maybe as early as next season.
Bob Hartley: "In the morning of the 7th game against the Devils in the Stanley Cup Finals, Forsberg waited for me in my office at 8:30. He literally begged me to allow him to return for the final game."
"Without delay, I communicated with my general manager, Pierre Lacroix, and the team's doctors. But they refused to allow Forsberg to play. According to the doctors, Forsberg could've died on the rink if we allowed him to play that day. It was way too risky but we thanked Forsberg for being such a warrior."
Some other stats
- Enough titles to join the "Triple Gold Club" twice, a feat that only 2 other players in history has accomplished.
- 2 scoring titles in the playoffs despite missing the Finals in both years. (only player in history to do so)
- Selke Trophy runner up (2nd) Other Top 10 finishes - 4th, 8th 10th place in voting.
- 4th All-Time in adjusted points/game (for comparing players how they performed in different era's to their respective peer's.)
- 3rd All-Time in adjusted points/game in the playoffs, (behind only Gretzky & Lemieux)
- All-Time scoring record in a single World Junior Championship tournament (31 points in only 7 games.)
- Ranked as the best player in the world by "The Hockey News" in 2002-2003 and 2003-2004.
- 7th all-time in +/- in the playoffs, behind only players like Gretzky, Kurri, Gregg, Anderson and Huddy (all of them linemates in the 80's Oilers dynasty years) and Lidstrom.
- 1st place in +/- in Avalanche franchise history with a +210 rating (Adam Foote 2nd at +129)
Érdemes ezeket is elolvasni:
http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_26950768/peter-forsberg-had-unique-mix-elite-skills-physical
http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_26947049/peter-forsbergs-competitive-spirit-continues-off-ice?source=pkg
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ROR a végén a 6 on 4-nál nagyot játszott, de előre felé tényleg egy feketelyuk. Iginla rémes, de az igazán hígfos Briere és MacKinnon, nekik értékelhető megmozdulásuk nem volt az egész meccsen (Iginla legalább az első gólból kivette a részét), Duchene se volt jó, de őt megmentette a gólja. 4. sor viszont tényleg jó volt, ők harcolták ki a kiállításokat, jól is ütköztek, kimondani is szörnyű, de idén Cliche eddig a top3 csatár között van a csapatban. EJ meg tegnap klasszis volt, főleg védekezésben, a gól csak hab a tortán.
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Válasz hofi33 hozzászólására (#46355) |
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Holden nagyon szar, -15-el vezeti a ligát
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Válasz hofi33 hozzászólására (#46355) |
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Két gyenge csapat gyenge meccsén a szerencsésebbik győzött - tisztára mint egy NB I-es focimeccs őszinte összefoglalója 
Holden bűn rossz, ideje lenne már elkönyvelni hogy one year wnder volt, írjuk le veszteségként és kész.
Ha meg RORnak és Iginlának nincs kedve játszani, nem muszáj, de akkor találják ki mit csinálnának helyette, mert ezzel most csak hátráltatják a csapatot, de nagyon.
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Idén még úgy se volt olyan meccs, amikor mi voltunk a szarabbak és mégis mi nyertünk 
Akiket én kiemelnék, az a 4. sor, Tanguay, és EJ.
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Tisztára mint a tavalyi meccsünk velük ... Gyengus teljesítmény, a végére összekapjuk magunkat és itt a két pont.
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Hát ezt a győzelmet nagyon-nagyon nem érdemeltük meg.
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Ekkora malac gólt is rég nem lőttünk. Nem érdemeltük meg, hogy egyenlítsünk. Nekik B2B 2. meccs, mégis ők a jobbak, bár az igazságos a kettős leléptetés lenne.
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EJ dicsérete, egyben a támadóink kritikája ...
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Nagyon
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Válasz BigFoote hozzászólására (#46348) |
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Én már annak is örülni tudok, ha az első harmad után nem szállunk el ...
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Úgy is felfoghatjuk, hogy hatékonyak vagyunk, de én egyelőre inkább szarnak látom a csapatot, mint hatékonynak. :)
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Válasz Shad hozzászólására (#46345) |
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8 perc 2 kapuraloves 1 gol. Ezt nevezik hatekonysagnak
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Válasz BigFoote hozzászólására (#46344) |
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Megint bekezdtünk, 0-1. Sosem lesz ennek vége?
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Tegnap megint kikapott a LEM, brutálisan szarok ők is, nyugati utolsó 3. helyen állnak.
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Kedves figyelmesség, köszönjük Bali. 
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Válasz Bali hozzászólására (#46341) |
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Egy cikk Forsbergről, fogadjátok nagy szeretettel
az nhl.com-on és espn-en megjelent cikkből vannak benne részek, szóval lehet nem találtok benne sok újdonságot
http://hosszabbitas.hu/amerikai/nhl/ut-a-hiressegek-csarnokaba
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Nem voltunk rosszak, bár olyan jók se. Cserébe a Rangers is langyos volt. Kellett ez a win, még ha csak SO-ban is sikerült megszerezni.
Beszarás, hogy Tangs vezeti a házi góllövőlistát 2 góllal.
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Nyertünk,de még mindig szarok vagyunk.
Hunwick gólpassz
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Tanguay nem normális idén :D
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Nagyon jó harmad volt, ha mindig ilyen hokit játszanánk akkor nem lenne kín-szenvedés ez a szezon. Persze 1-0-ról simán el lehet bukni, márpedig nem egy önbizalomtól és erőtől duzzadó társaság vagyunk, úgyhogy ez sajnos előfordulhat, Iginlának NMC-je van, de ennek ellenére el kéne cserélni egy él tucat használt sportszárra.
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Az eredeti hozzászólás módosítva lett a felhasználó által!
ROR-Duchene-Tanguay
Landeskog-Mitchell-Iginla
McGinn-MacKinnon-Briere
McLeod-Cliche-Talbot
Varlamov
4. sort csak tippelem, de mivel Cliche kirobbanthatatlan, így nyilván marad minden.
Ez meg..
Roy says Nathan MacKinnon has dropped the 10-12 pounds he gained over the summer
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Kizárólag védőt kéne draftolni most egy pár évig, hátha. :D
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Válasz Silent Bob hozzászólására (#46318) |
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Az eredeti hozzászólás módosítva lett a felhasználó által!
Mackinnon teljesítmènye idén az is facepalm a tavalyihoz képest
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Mitchell megy második sorba Landeskog és Iginla közé, Briere visszakerül, Everberg pedig ki.
Gondolom akkor MacKinnon-Duchene-ROR lesz az első sor.
Azt nem tudom, hogy pl Winchesterrel mi a fene van?
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